Question:
Dear fans,
We are using variant configuration functionality, where sales order will trigger production planning.
Is it possible to change characteristic value of configurable material or material variants, during production order creation? without APO?
If it is possible, is anybody can explain how to do this and what is the planning strategy should be used?
Thanks,
Bondan
Answer:
Could you elaborate further, i.e. why do you want to do this? If you want to choose an alternative BOM you can create an object dependency linked to the super BOM of the configurable material.
Julian
Answer:
Hi Julian,
Our requirement is let say for make to stock, we need to input some of the characteristic during order creation.
We are in plastic industry, where we need to input the cutting combination of plastic (length, width, etc). The length and width is treated as characteristic.
Can we change or make entry on characteristic during order creation?
Answer:
Bondan
Normally, you would pass the requirements from the sales order to the production order and configure the characteristics for each sales order line item within the sales order. You cannot change the production order BOM directly. I would recommend creating a dummy sales order, configuring the line items and using assembly orders to dynamically change the production orders. You can create an object dependency linked to the material BOM to calculate an area for issuing/allocating materials. We do this to calculate the square metres required for cutting parts out of sheet metal.
Regards
Julian
Answer:
Normally, you would pass the requirements from the sales order to the production order and configure the characteristics for each sales order line item within the sales order. You cannot change the production order BOM directly. I would recommend creating a dummy sales order, configuring the line items and using assembly orders to dynamically change the production orders. You can create an object dependency linked to the material BOM to calculate an area for issuing/allocating materials. We do this to calculate the square metres required for cutting parts out of sheet metal.
Julian
Thanks for your reply. I understand what is your suggestion to create dummy sales order in make to stock environment.
The problem is, we do trim optimization (reducing excess or free stock of cutting big jumbo roll into smaller slitted roll) outside SAP (where SAP recommend APO together with Greycon system to do this), while we are not going to implement APO at all. We only use IS-Mill. So we have to plan cutting combination/trim optimization using excell and upload to SAP.
Actually IS mill together with APO would provide our requirement to change characteristic during order creation for make to stock environment. But not the trim optimization. Hence we are not going to implement APO.
That is why, I am looking for work around solution with only using IS-Mill for MTO and MTS to be able to change characteristic during order creation. Because the planning is very very complex and dynamic.
Thanks and regards,
Bondan
Answer:
If you have a hard-link between the sales and production orders, you need to make the change to configuration in the sales order, and the production order component list should be redetermined automatically. This is controlled in the configuration profile settings.
If you are going to treat this as a MTO environment, you can edit the production order component list directly. Any component/assembly that you add manually can be configured in the production order. However, you will lose any hard link to the sales order for scheduling purposes.
Answer:
Dear Mike
You have said that
"Any component/assembly that you add manually can be configured in the production order."
But I have tried that. The system is only allowing to display the configuration of the component but not change it.
Regards
Answer:
I may have misunderstood your original question.
After the production order has already been saved, it is not possible to change it unless you retain a copy of the knowledge base in the order. To do this, go to the confign initial screen tab in CU42, and be sure that knowledge based order bom is chosen.
This has implications, however -- some MTO functions will not work, and there is considerable overhead in order processing and MRP.
In a MTO scenario, SAP requires that the manually added assemblies be completely deleted from the components list and re-added / re-configured. This is simply because the knowledge base is not there to do the changes for you, and since you edited the list manually, it doesn't know which pieces are custom and should be retained...
Answer:
I have a sales material which is a configurable material. The production BOM material is also configurable. Now I require that when I create the production order I should be able to configure the component. Right now when I go to the "Characteristic value assignment" after selecting the componet the system only displays the configuratuion and that too the header material configuration.
May be am missing some basic settings. In the confign parameters in config. profile what should be the Process selected from the options Plnd/prod. order/ Sales Order/ Order BOM - for the header material and that for the component.
Could you please let me know what's to be done.
Answer:
I don't have access to a system right now, so I can't say exactly which one. But, it's the one tht lets you choose between retaining the knowledgebase or keeping a static copy of the results. Then, you need to choose the one that retains the knowledgebase for both materials.
However, there may be another solution. If you have all of the information needed to configure the lower item during order entry, you can inherit the configuration from the sales order. If the subordinate class is assigned to the parent material, and all the characteristics are the same, you will still see only one of each characteristic on the order, but the sub-item will get configured automatically...
If the characteristics are different, it is better to set up a constraint to copy the values down during the BOM explosion.
In either of these cases, you would not need to retain the knowledge base (you could keep a planned/production order setting in CU42).
Answer:
Dear all,
So for example I have created Sales Order Number 1000.
Then I will create production order refer to this sales order number (tcode:CO08), without running MRP, because we do planning outside SAP, and it is characteristic based planning. And we don't implement APO.
Can I change the characteristics during order creation?
What setting should I made?
for the planning strategy?
for the configuration profile?
any configuration needed?
Thanks in advance,
Bondan