Question:
Hi All,
I am totally new to this area, we have an requirement to create the Inspection Plan.....while i was trying to create the new plan...group and group counter has been taken internally...
can any one give an idea what exactly group and group counter is..
Thanks in advance,
vamshi
Answer:
If there are more than one materials that conform to the same inspection criteria, i.e. same operation sequence, same inspection char, same usage, etc., then, instead of creating a separate inspection plan for each material, we can club all the materials into one inspection plan. For this in QP01, instead of giving the material, we enter a group and create a plan and assign all the relevant materials to the same inspection plan from the material assignment group.
If, for the same material, you need to have two inspection plans based on a differentiating criteria like quantity, then we can have multiple group counters in the same plan, for eg. GC 1 for quantity 1 - 5, GC2 for quantity 6-500 ... and so on.
Hope this clears it up a little.
Answer:
Hi ,
Thanks for your reply, i got little bit idea now, you are telling about the material assignment can be done......i will tell my understanding
for same group and group counter you can assign different material codes that is what u r telling right.....
And in the second para u r saying for the same material if you have different inspection plan depending on some criteria your counter willbe increased.....my doubt is since this group has different materials how are u going to differentiate the inspection plan for that particular material.
Thanks,
Answer:
Hi ,
Thanks for your reply, i got little bit idea now, you are telling about the material assignment can be done......i will tell my understanding
for same group and group counter you can assign different material codes that is what u r telling right.....
And in the second para u r saying for the same material if you have different inspection plan depending on some criteria your counter willbe increased.....my doubt is since this group has different materials how are u going to differentiate the inspection plan for that particular material.
Thanks,
No. Materials can be assigned to a plan and not to a group counter. Consider a material which has 2 inspection plans based on lot quantity. In that case, there will be 2 group counters.
Now consider many materials which, if lot qty is between 1-10, are checked for hardness, and if lot qty is from 11-10000, are checked for visual and dimensional parameters. In this case, you will have a grp with a name, say G1. This group will contain 2 counters. The 1st one (GC1) will have operations with chars HARDNESS and lot size from 1 to 10. The second one (GC2) will have operations with chars VISUAL and DIA and lot size 11 to 10000.
This entire set for this group and 2 group counters is known as an inspection plan. All the relevant materials will be attached to the plan.
If there is a different group of materials which will have different chars, then a new group can be made. A group is only meant to club similar materials together to avoid creating an inspection plan for each material separately. A group counter is within a group and is meant to store diff insp criteria for the same group.
Hope it's a little clearer now.
Answer:
Hi
Which unique combination do you say the inspection plan....is it "group+group counter+material code" .And how many material assignments can i do for an inspection plan. Is there any limit to assign number of materials to the plan.
thanks,
Answer:
It all depends how you want to use inspection plan.
We have 1 inspection plan for 1 material - "inside" the inspection plan are many task list, where 1 task list = material x vendor relationship.
So in our case
Group = one for material
Group couter = one for each task list, many for inspection plan.
Example for Material A, Vendors 1 to 3:
Material x Vendor x Group x Group counter
A x 3 x 36 x 1
A x 1 x 36 x 2
A x 2 x 36 x 3
Group counter is assigned automatically based on the order in which task lists are created.
Answer:
Tanuj said "Materials can be assigned to a plan and not to a group counter."
Actually they are assigned by counter within the material assignments. You can assign a material to only one counter in a group. If you want them assigned to all counters, you have to assign them that way.
- Ron
Answer:
Sorry .. my mistake.
Answer:
There is really no hard and fast rule. An inspection plan is really made unique by the combination of group and group counter. A material can be assigned to as many or as few group/group counters as you want.
I've had clients that made each group counter a different usage plan. Group counters 1 were 01 usage, 2 was 5 usage, 3 was 6 usage, etc....
Tanju gave the example of using each counter for a different inspection quantity.
I've had small plants have one group.. and ALL their plans were kept as group counters... some had over 99 counters in which case they created a second group.
I've seen the groups relate to classes.. all the plans for a given class are maintained in a related group. So for class Peroxides we have a group Peroxide with many counters..
It's whatever makes the most sense for the business to organize the plans.
Just please don't create one group/group counter for every individual material number!! (yes.. this has been done too.).
Craig
Answer:
If you want to get carried away with counters, you can also use characters so you have 99 + 26 x 26 possible group counters.
Answer:
Hi All,
So, In creation mode whenever i mention the Material Code externally with the existing Group and Plant then it will create a new Inspection Plan with the Same Group and New Group Counter......
Where i have to specify the Usage, Status......etc fields for that material + Existing Group + New Group Counter. Am I correct in understanding the things......
Thanks,
Answer:
Hi All,
So, In creation mode whenever i mention the Material Code externally with the existing Group and Plant then it will create a new Inspection Plan with the Same Group and New Group Counter......
Yes this is correct, the system will check which is the last numeric group counter used within this group, and then give you a group counter 1 higher. This is, provided this material/plant/group do not exist yet.
Where i have to specify the Usage, Status......etc fields for that material + Existing Group + New Group Counter.
vamshi
What you specify here, is for the inspection plan header record. So that is the Group and Group Counter.
So if you only have one material assigned, then you are correct, but do not forget that you can assign more materials to the inspection plan.